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wildwanderinggrrl	Jagged Edges!	Lead	[-]
Registered User Posts: 24 (06/04/09 11:53) Golden Huntress Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None That is one of my site problems that keeps coming back to haunt me, every time I see those ragged graphics... How about some quick advice on how to cleanup edges on odd-shaped graphics? My navigation buttons are oval shaped. Now on a light colored or white BG that would be fine, of course (well, i assume). But on a darker color, needless to say it is showing badly. It's even more obvious now on a larger screen, where any flaws are made plain! I've looked for tutorials but the writers use programs I don't have or have never heard of. Anything for PSP.7 doesn't really address the exact problem I have. Do we just use Animation Shop, go along the edges of a graphic and make the unwanted white pixels transparent? Or, is there another (maybe more sure-fire) way? I need to make some new buttons and I have a design in mind, but it's still going to be oval shaped... And I'm sure this topic has been covered here before....somewhere.... No Limits.
Chey		#1	[-]
Registered User Posts: 2399 (06/04/09 12:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Post an example Wild.........let try and figure this out! One reason it will pixelate is because you are trying to make something small,a lil bigger........! Loves C
tatttoobob		#2	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1444 (06/04/09 12:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	grab your selection tool,, set it to feather 1 ( i like to use 2) antialais is checked on make a selection around your object, go to tool bar to selections>modify>contract,, set this to 1 go back to tool bar to selections and invert,, hit delete,, deactivate Stand back,, my paint brush is loaded
jerrybarton		#3	[-]
Registered User Posts: 374 (06/04/09 1:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yep, Tat said it. New and Revised (unlike me): http://www.jerrybarton.eu
Brokenbow36323		#4	[-]
Registered User Posts: 27 (06/04/09 9:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	What Bob said it works for me,
Skyhawk	Jagged Edges gone!	#5	[-]
Registered User Posts: 398 (06/05/09 11:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well Wildwanderinggrrl, wander no more because I have a simple and effective solutions to the jagged edges. Of course there are many ways to do this but my way is simple and straightforward. Try using the softener tool/brush whenever and wherever you encounter these pesky edges. It does the job just as well if not even better. Good luck and let me know how it turns out. Regards
MT POCKETS		#6	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1389 (06/05/09 12:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	There are two methods for you that I have used and they both work well. There are still other methods like masking but its a bit more complex albeit very effective. Being challenged in life is inevitable. Being defeated is optional. Make it a great day and never claim defeat.
pops		#7	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1257 (06/05/09 2:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I use both the above suggestions wwg i.e. contract the selection by 1 or 2 pixels and finish off with the softening brush. Say goodbye to jaggies Your Signature ... Dickie Bird piccies at www.pbrentnall.co.uk
wildwanderinggrrl		#8	[-]
Registered User Posts: 25 (06/08/09 11:56) Golden Huntress Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	OK, many thanks, All!! I have got a really good example of how bad my jaggies can get... I did create those navigation buttons and they are looking surprisingly good. The images were not large, to start with, so going around edges and cleaning up was not a big deal. That much has turned out pretty well. However....I've got this other image that I just haven't been able to do anything with. BUT I'll be trying your suggestions and then we shall see!! Got to run, but i'll be posting that rascally image soon. No Limits.
wildwanderinggrrl		#9	[-]
Registered User Posts: 26 (06/08/09 4:39) Golden Huntress Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Post an example Wild.........let try and figure this out! One reason it will pixelate is because you are trying to make something small,a lil bigger........! LOL, that is true, Chey...and this also happens when you take a larger image, shrink it and then try to make the resized image bigger! I've had that problem lately too... Well...I thought I would get fancy and try putting in a URL straight to one of the problem images...but that isn't working. Guess I'll have to go to Photobucket! No Limits.
wildwanderinggrrl		#10	[-]
Registered User Posts: 27 (06/08/09 5:09) Golden Huntress Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Whew, finally back! Geesh, PhotoBucket takes all day on dialup!! Anyway, let's see if this code will work....I can never figure out codes... It looks messy, but I tried the link and it does work... I did everything you all suggested to clean this image up, but so far nothing has worked! Umm, I think it was meant to be used on a white BG, not colored or textured... <a href="http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/lady_aeolusia/?action=view&current=heralds_trumpet.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/lady_aeolusia/heralds_trumpet.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> No Limits.
Chey	Resize	#11	[-]
Registered User Posts: 2443 (06/08/09 6:55) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I dont know how big you wanted to go.........but I took your image out of Photo Bucket and into X2....... put it on black so I could see if it would pixelate....when you want to resize something try the Second icon in your tool box.........its the arrow pointing to the left.......choose pick.......and take the nodes and make it as big as you want.......then if you still need to clean up the edges.......choose the selection tool (the third one in your tool box.......choose Point to point.....and use that to come as close as you need to, to eleminate that edge...... This is what I got! I hope this was clearer than mud....lol! Loves C
wildwanderinggrrl		#12	[-]
Registered User Posts: 28 (06/09/09 4:17) Golden Huntress Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	OK, thanks!!! It looks fine now. Crossing my fingers that it will look good on my webpage... It looks about the right size, too. I tend to "work large" anyway (due to wonky eyesight, I suppose). It looks like you got it pretty well cleaned up, and I've been "taking notes"... Because the image was originally a .jpg and of course it was starting to fall apart from so much yanking around, I changed it to a .png file (as I recall?) and also tried an "Improver" in another set of filters that I have, to clear up the yellow area a little bit. And I added those little lines near the top so that it would look more realistic, like material hanging... IYO, do you think there is any means of cleaning up the red "lion" icon in the middle? Maybe just go along and smooth up the yellow pixels around it? And would there be a way to make the icon look....oh what is the word...well, you know....convex rather than concave? That is an elusive effect I've always kinda scratched my head over, anyway...sometimes I want something to look "sunken in", although not in this case... It does look "sunken" here, but I'd rather it looked like it rises just a tiny fraction of an inch above the surface of the material. You know, like embroidery does... No Limits.
tatttoobob		#13	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1476 (06/09/09 5:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	cant you just redraw it? Stand back,, my paint brush is loaded
Chey		#14	[-]
Registered User Posts: 2464 (06/09/09 6:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ok......I smoothed out your "drape" lines and did Selection/freehand /point to point used the enter bevel and made it billow out........There was nothing I could do with the red lion crest, but I used another that was free online and subsituted it for the one you had....if you have to have the red lion and you have it......you can smudge out this one and insert it instead! Or as Tatt suggested redraw it ..... Loves C Loves C
wildwanderinggrrl		#15	[-]
Registered User Posts: 29 (06/11/09 12:37) Golden Huntress Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oh, that looks amazing, Chey!!! Well, I didn't draw that image, I found it online for a certain theme I've got going... The original image is still out there too, BTW. Problem was, the artist apparently intended it for a white background. Hence our current troubles! It also works well on a solid black background, obviously. I can use the lion crest. I can save this one and paste it onto the current version of the image. I will now endeavor to link to (or paste in) a "sample" of the original on my Photobucket acct so that you can see what my real problem has been all along. I think that was finally solved when I drew a lot of extra fill-in lines (using point to point) with colors picked out of the image. Then I painted in colors from my backgrounds (and I have 4 different seasonal backgrounds on the website) to ragged white pixels that persisted every time I used select and tried different means of inverting or changing the selection borders... Somewhere I read about someone having a similar problem and they were advised to do this, using colors that would fool the eye and seem to blend into the other colors on the screen. All but one of the four look fine, and that one in question needs a darker hue picked off the background patterns... Okay, it worked, now you can easily get an idea of what I'm trying to describe...this is a small portion of the "spring" BG pattern... No Limits.
Skyhawk		#16	[-]
Registered User Posts: 412 (06/11/09 10:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Here's a rough version that I put together, use it as you please.
Skyhawk		#17	[-]
Registered User Posts: 413 (06/11/09 10:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	And these are for you Chey, work your magic on 'em. There is a black one in there, I made the file with a pnp extension so the minute you copy or safe the image you will be able to see it.
wildwanderinggrrl		#18	[-]
Registered User Posts: 30 (06/11/09 12:39) Golden Huntress Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	OH WOW....Thanks, Skyhawk!!! Now my brain is busy working to devise a new plan to use this awesome graphic...tying it in with the smaller versions in place on the site elsewhere... (i forgot i wasn't logged in and tried posting...not sure whether it showed up...my name appeared on the front page listing even so... If there are two posts here, you'll know why - lol) No Limits.

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